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“The hook for ‘Estella,’ I was like, ‘I’m gonna save that shit. “I just would have hooks and make songs a cappella,” he says. “Estella” came from a blueprint that La’ron had been singing in his head for two years. But La’ron didn’t play guitar, piano, or bass, and wasn’t surrounded with other musicians in Wisconsin to help put his ideas onto tape. Previously, La’ron had only put out a handful of tracks, having snuck into a recording studio with his friend and producer Yoshi Flower on a previous L.A. He’s not just coming in and there’s writers helping him write or coming up with lyrics or ideas. “He’s one of the best writers I know,” says Barker. There, in Barker’s studio, they laid down “Estella” in an hour, and the rest of SURVIVOR’S GUILT over two weeks on a second visit. The two met on Instagram, trading comments, and then DMs, until Barker invited La’ron to record with him in L.A. With tracks like “Hollywood Sucks” - his most Blink-sounding song - and the noodling, melodic “Estella,” he’s getting there, with a little help from pop-punk godfather Travis Barker. Brightside,’ another fucking ‘I Miss You.’” “That’s something I’ve been in love with. “It’s not necessarily making hits, but it’s making anthems - anthemic things that people want to chant,” he says. If you don’t do that shit right, it’s gonna be fucking horrible.”Įarlier that day in September, La’ron sits on the roof of an apartment building in Chinatown, wearing tan Carhart overalls and big, black Celine sunglasses, explaining his goals with the mixtape. “You have to find the borderline between corny and cliché, and, like, the wholesomeness in the middle,” La’ron explains.